7 strings and fret buzz...

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ELECTRIC-RED
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I've been playing 7 string for almost a year now. I tune to drop A flat and find it near impossible to set up any 7 string I've used without getting annoying fret buzz on the low B through D strings. I also like to shred which is really tough when the action is 3mm off of the fret board. I just got an Ibanez RGD 7321 which has a 26.5 inch scale and I'm running string gauges 64-11 out of necessity because i pick really hard. I do know what I'm doing when it comes to setting up guitars but I'm at a loss with every 7 I've used. Is this a common problem with 7 strings? Any advice would be much appreciated.

Joey Roach
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Have you tried raising your action? do you have a bow in the neck? its hard to say exactly what the issue is, but from what you described I'd say raise that action a bit. unless their is only a few frets buzzing, then its going to need a rod adjustment.

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Yes I have raised the action and checked the bow in the neck and everything is how it should be. In fact the action is a little high for my taste and I'm still getting some buzz mostly on the low E string on most of the frets. There aren't any dead frets but it makes it almost impossible to play clean tones as you will hear the buzz. I've never had this problem with any 6 string that I've owned(even cheap ones).

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what gauge of string are you using? that's the only thing I can think of that will cause buzz without the neck being bowed or the action too close to the frets.

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64 gauge is def not big enough for a flat, look into a 68 i used that constantly for drop a when i had my 7 strings both a ibby s7320 and a rg7321 then you gotta set it up with the right intuition and such. Christ im using a 68 on my ltd fm408 right now for my b string lol...edit* def look at your guitars intution i had a bitch of a time with the rg7321 but once i got it there was never a buzz after that.

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Pathos wrote:

64 gauge is def not big enough for a flat, look into a 68 i used that constantly for drop a when i had my 7 strings both a ibby s7320 and a rg7321 then you gotta set it up with the right intuition and such. Christ im using a 68 on my ltd fm408 right now for my b string lol...edit* def look at your guitars intution i had a bitch of a time with the rg7321 but once i got it there was never a buzz after that.

My string gauges are 64-48-38-28-18-14-11. And keep in mind it's a 26.5 inch scale so there's more string tension than a standard 25.5 scale.

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take it to a guitar shop and tell them to fix it! : p

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I have a 26.5" Schecter Damien 7, and I had the same problem for the longest time. I play a half step higher than you, just at a regular Drop A, and I don't have a noticeable amount of fret buzz. I also use pretty light strings, an EB Power Slinky 7 set, which I think is .10-52 through the strings.

What I suggest you do is check your neck very carefully. I had buzz on my low B, first fret. I took the advice of my brother and all the other guitarists I knew and tightened my truss rod, to the point where there was a noticeable bow. It actually got worse. I raised my action to ungodly heights, and it still didn't help.

This is roughly what it looked like:

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What that actually does is pulls the neck of the guitar closer to the bridge, shortening the length and making your (what I'm assuming are) jumbo frets hit the string. What works better is putting a LOT of relief into your neck.

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A little bit past flat, I guess. It'll remove enough buzz to play clean, and it'll allow you to drop your action to a much more reasonable height. That, coupled with a better nut, and possible a little fret doctoring will remove most if not all the issues you're having, as well as making your guitar overall a lot more playable.

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The Reverend wrote:

I have a 26.5" Schecter Damien 7, and I had the same problem for the longest time. I play a half step higher than you, just at a regular Drop A, and I don't have a noticeable amount of fret buzz. I also use pretty light strings, an EB Power Slinky 7 set, which I think is .10-52 through the strings.

What I suggest you do is check your neck very carefully. I had buzz on my low B, first fret. I took the advice of my brother and all the other guitarists I knew and tightened my truss rod, to the point where there was a noticeable bow. It actually got worse. I raised my action to ungodly heights, and it still didn't help.

This is roughly what it looked like:

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------_______________------

What that actually does is pulls the neck of the guitar closer to the bridge, shortening the length and making your (what I'm assuming are) jumbo frets hit the string. What works better is putting a LOT of relief into your neck.

=================
_____-------------------_____

A little bit past flat, I guess. It'll remove enough buzz to play clean, and it'll allow you to drop your action to a much more reasonable height. That, coupled with a better nut, and possible a little fret doctoring will remove most if not all the issues you're having, as well as making your guitar overall a lot more playable.

That's exactly what I've been experimenting with over the last few days and it seems to be working. I've been tightening the truss rod a little bit each day and then i let it sit for 24 hours to make sure it sets properly. So far so good, the action is getting better and the buzz is starting to fade. Thanks for your advice.

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I only needed to read the first 2 sentences, I'm a pro guitar tech and here's what you need IMO: 11-70 strings, leveled frets, a almost straight (slightly relieved) truss rod, and setup.