Headbanging: Dangerous? And how to avoid that danger?

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I read an article recently about Dave Mustaine developing spinal stenosis from years of headbanging. It got me thinking about the past five years of my life where at almost every concert event, I've headbanging consistently. I'm interested in how this stenosis develops, if it can be attributed to a certain style of headbaging, if it's hereditary, and if it can be counteracted with proper muscle development.

Headbangers and those that know the bangover all too well, please let me know what you think!

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I'm not surprised. Any consistent & violent body movements over an extended period of time, is bound to have a degrading effect on the body. Look at athletes. Not sure but, probably the cause of Chuck Shuldinger's death (Death's guitarist & vocalist). He died of a brain tumor.

A little bit of time 'banging, you're bound to feel lite-headed. That ain't normally a good thing. Friends don't let friends headbang, to spinal disease. Davie

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Was wondering the same thing few weeks ago. Tried to google it to find some way to avoid the pain the day after headbanging too much, but nothing...
I don't know how bands playing like, 5 shows a week, headbanging all along the set, can even survive, ahah !

In different videos, you can see the artists warm up before going on stage (you can see Jean-Michel Labadie doing this in some Gojira videos), I don't know if this really help, it never worked for me... Maybe my hair is just too long and ask too much efforts, I don't know !

Anyway, good question, but i have no idea !

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HOKENSTYFE wrote:

I'm not surprised. Any consistent & violent body movements over an extended period of time, is bound to have a degrading effect on the body. Look at athletes. Not sure but, probably the cause of Chuck Shuldinger's death (Death's guitarist & vocalist). He died of a brain tumor.

A little bit of time 'banging, you're bound to feel lite-headed. That ain't normally a good thing. Friends don't let friends headbang, to spinal disease. Davie

I don't think the correlation is the causation in this case. It would be rare for cancer clusters to form from physical damages and not being triggered chemically. I have a feeling the two were unrelated.

Let's dissect headbanging a bit:

-Either a swivel or pivot motion at the neck
-Uses the weight from hair/head to create momentum
-Muscles of the neck, chest, and back used to snap the head back after the range of motion is exceeded
-Often to the tempo or half speed of the music
-Uses mostly the cervical vertebrae, and possibly thoracic depending on technique

Possible dangers to consider:
-Muscle wear and tear
-Ligament/tendon damage
-Inter-vertebral disc wear
-Brain damage caused by movement of brain inside skull against the walls of the skull
-Lightheaded-ness/dizziness caused by irregular blood flow

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I don't think you can discount violent movements and the possibility of internal damage. Fluid build up, bruising, micro tears. All of which can transpose infection. Some cancers are an abundance of good cells. Nonetheless...

Headbanging can't be good over 4 decades. Especially when you get into your 50's.

I've been out of headbanging since I stopped moshing. I do nod my head but it's more rhythmic, than anything.

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i don't know how some of you guys can head-bang at ALL! i do it for about 60 seconds and the minute i stop i feel like passing out. instead i do ferocious head nodding.

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I find changing up the styles often is really helpful and try not to go h.a.m. when you do it. Some people whip their head like they want it to come off. As long as you don't over do it in any one style you'll be able to avoid a lot of neck pain.

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You should just headbang like Jens. You'll have the best moves on the dance floor and it's not very demanding for your body.

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Djenzen wrote:

You should just headbang like Jens. You'll have the best moves on the dance floor and it's not very demanding for your body.

I think there's a Swedish prerequisite...

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Got-djent, you guys really do such a good job with SEM (or maybe Digital Ocean does?) and I mean it, I'll type queries into Google about djent or metal and half the time got-djent is a top hit. That's why we end up with these random non-sensical responses from robots.

Can you guys do anything about that? Do you reserve the right to delete these silly posts or is it just not worth the time? Wink You guys are the best!

Also, to be on topic: I seriously never go to shows anymore. I like to enjoy my music in my headphones. I'd love to see some bands but none of them come close enough for me to want to make the drive, haha. So there's my anti-stenosis. Laziness.

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We don't do anything of the sort, but we were arguably the first website to cover djent exclusively, so I guess we've had some time to build up a rapport with the search engines Wink

Regarding the spam: our antispam system has been getting less and less accurate over the past few months. We actually get tons of spam comments, forum posts, news article submissions and even updates every day (regularly over 100 per day), but luckily most of them are never seen by our users. It's a pain. Maybe we should try out Google's new "I'm not a robot" catpchas or something.

I've marked all the ones in this thread as spam manually, hopefully it helps...