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Hello! I think it would be beneficial regarding to the evolvement of the scene if there would be more amateur and less professional bands included in the headlines! Also, they could change more frequently.

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Professional bands receive their exposure on the site at the 'Top rated headlines' section anyway.

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Top headlines are a suggestion of site heads! Your free to post here, but to be taken serious...ummm...you need to BE, Djent!

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Hello! I think it would be beneficial regarding to the evolvement of the scene if there would be more amateur and less professional bands included in the headlines! Also, they could change more frequently.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. We can't "not post" news about bigger bands just because they're big, people will still be interested in what they're up to regardless of their size. If you want smaller bands to make the headlines more often, you should tell them to do more headline-worthy stuff (release albums, songs, post videos, ...) and also make sure that they inform us, for example using the update box in the sidebar.

We just post the stuff people alert us about. The ratio of news about big bands and news about smaller bands is not something we can control. When bigger bands do something it's simply more visible, so the news is more likely to reach us.

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Professional bands receive their exposure on the site at the 'Top rated headlines' section anyway.

Not sure what that means either - of course posts about bigger bands get more upvotes, that's because more people read them. People like you, who are more interested in smaller bands (I presume), will go through all the recent headlines anyway.

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OK, first, to get things straight, I guess I was pretty wrong, because at the word "headlines" I meant those on the up with a headline picture and stuff! OK? My bad! Hereafter, by the word "headlines" I will refer to them, because I don't know how to exactly call them!

Thank you for reply. I get you now. I mean here's Spiralmountain's new self titled album, which is obviously awesome, and I think it deserves to be headlined. It is amateur and smaller compared to, say, TesseracT and Vildhjarta, but now I just realized that you guys aren't just the all-djent-seeing-eye, having a complete view of djent in mind, like somewhat how I thought before. (Nothing bad on it, of course, it's understandable) I very much prefer the Intervals EP in the headlines, there are a bunch of similar releases which could have been included, e. g. Gradjent's Flow System (very unknown, so I really get you on this one, but these are the releases which should sure be exposed!), On Impact's self-titled full-length (no one knows about them, one of the most promising bands of the scene, they are like an unbelievable blend of the most splendid and progressive djent and the most pleasant progressive jazz like Animals As Leaders and some of Bulb!'s stuff and even a lot of extras! They are ones who would REALLY deserve exposure!), Shades of Black's Road Trip EP, Invocation's superb EP, Encircle's Watch the Sky Fall full-length, Hillvalley's "Shelter", the Wanzwa album which is ridiculously original, the Machinist EP (ok, I won't say awesome at all of them, but those I just mention here I think are), Nemertines' Bad Blood album, In Search of Sight's new EP "Archaic", ForTiorI's Triton album, Behold Oblivion's Witness full-length, and imo basically all of Tyrant of Death's albums (there may be an objection because ToD's os not that upright djent), and yeah, Spiralmountain's aforementioned new self-titled. But basically we just take a look at the "Recent releases" section and we see a load of awesomenesses (I don't mean all of them are awesome, of course). As far as I remember, even Cloudkicker and Modern Day Babylon weren't included in the headlines, pardon if I'm wrong! (At the former one it can be an excuse that his latest albums are not that djent upright, but at the latter it can't. But again, sorry, if I'm wrong.)

This way there would be much more headlined articles which would give it a more frequent change, but I think it would just make the site more lively and give the scene a more lively feel through the site. Since this, it would be useful to make it able to browse a headlines' archives, so one could browse among the highlighted news going back.

Hey, since I just keep my eyes on the scene and all the new releases so intensively, I could offer to take a listen at all the outcoming new materials (I mean which I can, so I mean all of which can be streamed or downloaded for free. Some releases seem only to exist in theory anyway, and you can't get a palpable listen of it at all.) and give you a suggestions about what to include in the headlines. You take a listen at that particular record as well, and if you think so, you might make a headline of it. Just take a listen at On Impact's fresh release (you can stream it at Bandcamp), that's one of a perfect example!!!

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mysteriousdsf wrote:

OK, first, to get things straight, I guess I was pretty wrong, because at the word "headlines" I meant those on the up with a headline picture and stuff! OK? My bad! Hereafter, by the word "headlines" I will refer to them, because I don't know how to exactly call them!

I guess they don't really have a name Tongue I call them 'features' or 'featured headlines', most of the time.

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Thank you for reply. I get you now. I mean here's Spiralmountain's new self titled album, which is obviously awesome, and I think it deserves to be headlined. It is amateur and smaller compared to, say, TesseracT and Vildhjarta, but now I just realized that you guys aren't just the all-djent-seeing-eye, having a complete view of djent in mind, like somewhat how I thought before. (Nothing bad on it, of course, it's understandable)

Indeed, we do not Smile There was a time when we came pretty close, but nowadays this scene is so large that we can't oversee everything. I've noticed lately that we've started missing things occasionally, i.e. stuff that we would have posted if we knew about it, but we just didn't Tongue

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I very much prefer the Intervals EP in the headlines, there are a bunch of similar releases which could have been included, e. g. Gradjent's Flow System (very unknown, so I really get you on this one, but these are the releases which should sure be exposed!), On Impact's self-titled full-length (no one knows about them, one of the most promising bands of the scene, they are like an unbelievable blend of the most splendid and progressive djent and the most pleasant progressive jazz like Animals As Leaders and some of Bulb!'s stuff and even a lot of extras! They are ones who would REALLY deserve exposure!), Shades of Black's Road Trip EP, Invocation's superb EP, Encircle's Watch the Sky Fall full-length, Hillvalley's "Shelter", the Wanzwa album which is ridiculously original, the Machinist EP (ok, I won't say awesome at all of them, but those I just mention here I think are), Nemertines' Bad Blood album, In Search of Sight's new EP "Archaic", ForTiorI's Triton album, Behold Oblivion's Witness full-length, and imo basically all of Tyrant of Death's albums (there may be an objection because ToD's os not that upright djent), and yeah, Spiralmountain's aforementioned new self-titled.

The featured headlines aren't solely intended to promote new releases Tongue They are primarily used to promote our exclusive content (interviews and whatnot), and news that we feel the majority of our users will want to know about (which is often about bigger bands). Occasionally we feature some stuff that's been getting a lot of buzz, even if it's not 'huge news' (like the Intervals EP for example).

And then finally, we also do features on request: for example, in return for a front page feature, we get exclusivity over the release of a new track, or something like that. For us it's a tool to get some more exclusive content, and in return we give the artists in questions more exposure.

If any of the bands you named would like to get a featured headline, all they have to do is get in touch. This happens quite regularly, and in most cases so far, we were able to come to a satisfying arrangement for both parties. So by all means, they should get in touch, they have nothing to lose Smile

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But basically we just take a look at the "Recent releases" section and we see a load of awesomenesses (I don't mean all of them are awesome, of course). As far as I remember, even Cloudkicker and Modern Day Babylon weren't included in the headlines, pardon if I'm wrong! (At the former one it can be an excuse that his latest albums are not that djent upright, but at the latter it can't. But again, sorry, if I'm wrong.)

Modern Day Babylon's release would definitely have been featured if it was free, but it wasn't Tongue I do have to admit that the selection of featured headlines is arbitrary to an extent though, I just do it when I have some time for it.

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This way there would be much more headlined articles which would give it a more frequent change, but I think it would just make the site more lively and give the scene a more lively feel through the site.

I don't think they should change much more frequently. Maybe a little more frequently at times. Between 5-10 new features per month is a good target frequency, imo. Bear in mind that this feature is mainly aimed at people with short attention spans, so to speak, who are also much less likely to visit the site more than once per week. Also, when we feature our own content (like the TesseracT interview we posted recently), we want to make sure that it stays featured for a while, it's not supposed to drop off after a week Tongue

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Since this, it would be useful to make it able to browse a headlines' archives, so one could browse among the highlighted news going back.

That's a good idea. I have some plans to make the news article archives more browseable in general, and browsing past features will be a useful addition in that respect. I'll try to remember it Smile

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Hey, since I just keep my eyes on the scene and all the new releases so intensively, I could offer to take a listen at all the outcoming new materials (I mean which I can, so I mean all of which can be streamed or downloaded for free. Some releases seem only to exist in theory anyway, and you can't get a palpable listen of it at all.) and give you a suggestions about what to include in the headlines. You take a listen at that particular record as well, and if you think so, you might make a headline of it. Just take a listen at On Impact's fresh release (you can stream it at Bandcamp), that's one of a perfect example!!!

On Impact's release was pretty cool, but it's not something I would make a featured headline unless they requested it. You said it yourself, nobody knows them, so it's less likely to interest the target audience I mentioned earlier.

Nevertheless, I think it would be a good idea to raise awareness about the fact that these features can be requested. It would be a win-win situation, as we would get more exclusive content, and the bands would get more exposure. I'll have a think about how we can achieve this.