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cameronm79
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I'm still pretty new to this whole thing like most people on here, Starting to get the tone I want but its still not quit there. Just wanted some constructive feedback.

http://soundcloud.com/cameronmonaco/post-tramatic-bliss

its not finished yet there is no bass and the cleans are off a bit. thats another thing i need to figure out is how to mix the clean with the heavy stuff better.amongst other things I know most people on here know how hard it is to get a decent sound going without any help. Also anyone know how to get the awesome clean tone bulb uses. youtube "bulb heliovice" thats the tone i'm after.

using:
MBP
Logic 9
Guitar rig 4
Steven Slate ex drums
and loads of eq and compression
an amt max

Joey Roach
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delays and reverbs are used to get cleans like what you're asking for.

as for your mix I'm going to be a bit harsh in the sense that I will only state what I think you can improve on. But I will start on a good note and state that I like your use of compression.

first I find the drums to be extremely dry and thin you should try sending your drums to a reverb bus to add width and glue the drums together. I'd also (and this is a more personal taste thing on my end) have a reverb bus just for the snare alone before sending to a drum verb bus. adding reverb on the snare alone tends to make it pop out more with a lot less eq and compression I find.

you definitely need to get a bass guitar in there and add the low end of things. I feel as though the guitars are lacking hight and add bass to them can skyrocket the guitars to new levels.

the clean guitars I'd personally try adding delay to first before reverb. I'm not too sure how many clean tracks you have but I'd try to have 2 pan them left and right how much is up to you and send them both to a delay bus panned center. this will add width to the cleans and make them more noticeable in the mix.

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thanks man appreciate it.

Joey Roach
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Not a problem I'm always up for helping out someone by telling them some techniques they can use when mixing.

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On that note, how do you make a bus? :S

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depends on the DAW in reaper I use the routing matrix to send all my drum tracks to a drum bus for example and then I make sure none of my drum tracks are going to master but instead to my drum bus then my master.

But I also call Aux's bus' and they work the same way except you want an aux and what ever is being sent into it to go to the same place. so my reverb bus is really an aux and both the snare and verb would then be sent to my drum bus.

I'm sure this is confusing to understand. its real difficult to say how to do it without showing how but here is a picture just to show what I'm talking about in reaper. other DAW's don't have this thing witch is one of the reasons I use reaper now.

so in this example I have a snare and kick as my normal tracks I created a verb AUX to send my snare into. And a drum bus to sum all my drum tracks including the AUX into one track basically.

Now that I think about it this isn't going to really tell you how to do it. I'll make a quick video this weekend on how to make bus' and Aux's and quickly how to use them in reaper. for now there is a general idea as to what they are and if you don't use reaper you can always look it up there is some good videos and such that explain step by step.

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I told you, you should do tutorials. @Joeyshoelace

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yeah I know, and I've been thinking of things to do videos on. only hard part is trying to find the time to do it. My first one will be on routing since its a very useful thing to know.

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Joeyshoelace wrote:

yeah I know, and I've been thinking of things to do videos on. only hard part is trying to find the time to do it. My first one will be on routing since its a very useful thing to know.

Seriously, keep us updated. Maybe a monthly forum tutorial/youtube right here. Would subscribe!

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SHOELACE! SHOELACE! SHOELACE! do it dude.

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I will for sure just trying to find a program to record audio and video off my computer at the moment to do so. anyone know of anything good?